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NUTTY PUTTY CAVE
NUTTY PUTTY CAVE DEATH
KSL
Crews work to rescue man stuck in cave
November 25th, 2009 @ 8:28am

UTAH COUNTY -- More than 30 rescuers are trying to reach a man stuck in the Nutty Putty Caves in Utah County.

The Utah County Sheriff's Office says the 26-year-old man was with a group of 11 people when he became lodged in a narrow part of a cave around 8:45 p.m. Tuesday. Friends called authorities around 9:30 p.m. saying the man was stuck and could move only a couple of inches.

A helicopter is on stand by and crews from Utah County and Orem City say it could be hours before they're able to free him.

The sheriff's office says the group had a permit to tour the caves.

People have become trapped in this area in the past, and crews have had to chip away at rock to free them.

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TripleTeazer
Report Comment 7:54am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
NOTE TO SELF: Never climb in tight little spaces where i might get stuck.
funny +26

Scott M.
Report Comment 7:56am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - Maybe he should have gone to a lamas class before he attempted the birth canal. It's all about the breathing.
ditto +16


The voice of reason
Report Comment 8:15am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Scott M. - Yeah. That birth canal is a pain.

I've taken about a half dozen Scout troops to Nutty Putty. I stopped going through the birth canal years ago. I just point and tell them to let me know when their ready to come back.

It's NOT a comfortable situation.
ditto +5


Sartharion
Report Comment 8:20am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@The voice of reason - I really feel for this poor guy. I've done a bit of spelunking when I was younger. One time I got stuck for about 5 minutes. For months I would have nightmares, it was completely terrifying.
funny +21


FamProclimation
Report Comment 8:34am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Sartharion - in about a weeks time he should lose enough weight to shimmy out of there.
insightful +5


Enforce The Law!
Report Comment 9:24am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@FamProclimation - They may as well set up a fire station there. The last time I was there we didn't get to do birth canal because the cave was giving birth to some really fat guy and he got stuck. They tried everything like putting baby oil on him. I don't know how he got out.
funny +3


nargles
Report Comment 9:34am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@FamProclimation - Poor Pooh Bear.
ditto +1


Sharppointy1
Report Comment 9:48am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Sartharion - Oh man, I read this story and got claustrophobic and terrified just sitting here at my computer. I sure hope they can get the young man out quickly. I wonder what he's doing to keep the terror at bay?
troll -2

VXGA
Report Comment 10:02am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Sharppointy1 - Who cares? He's an idiot for going in there in the first place. He deserves the terror! Mwah ah ah ah ah...


Nervous Agent
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The voice of reason
Report Comment 8:23am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@The voice of reason - Grr . . .

I meant "they're."

BAH!
funny +2

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bladegunner
Report Comment 8:55am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@The voice of reason - Go easy, "Voice of reason," go easy. :)
split vote 0


russellw21
Report Comment 9:53am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@The voice of reason - I to have been in that care tons of times, but I would never go through the birth canal... EVER!!
funny +1


Baka Shilo
Report Comment 9:43am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Scott M. - It is the birth canal, I would suggest K-Y jelly.

 

The voice of reason
Report Comment 10:06am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Baka Shilo - Or forceps.

*rim shot*
insightful +8

Vinney
Report Comment 7:58am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - I've been up in that same space a few times. "the birth canal" isn't all that bad, it's just that the entrance to that passage is in the roof, and there is a 90 degree turn a few feet in that can be hard to navigate if you're tall.

60% of the time it works everytime
ditto +7

Mr_neo
Report Comment 8:15am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Vinney - Let's see... it takes a while to really figure out that you are stuck and that your friends can't help you... and then it takes some time for your friends to make it out of that cave... and maybe more time to get out to where you can get cell phone coverage... and by then it was 9:30 LAST NIGHT. So, he probably got stuck by around 7:30 or 8:00 last night... and if he's still there, that's 12 hours stuck and counting. Eeek!

The longer he is there, the more swelling will occur around the areas of his body that are wedged, if there are any, making this harder as time goes on. Hope they can get the poor guy out soon. And I hope he reconsiders which passages he tries to take in the future.

“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” - George Bernard Shaw
ditto +4

TripleTeazer
Report Comment 8:21am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Mr_neo - Maybe him and his buddies should bring a can of Crisco on their cave exploring trips for now on.
funny +7

FlieByNight
Report Comment 8:28am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - Chip away at the rock to get people free?? Great... Won't be able to call that area the "birth canal" after this. It will be like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.. :(
funny +2

Grvtykllr
Report Comment 9:54am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@FlieByNight - "It will be like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.. :( "

OH? So, you know my ex wife?
funny +11

Dennis M.
Report Comment 8:35am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - A human body should only spelunker through the birth canal once in a life time.....

One big push, a little yank and a slap on buttocks....everything will be just fine!
JustMyOpinion
funny +2

TripleTeazer
Report Comment 8:37am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Dennis M. - Dont forget to put a little gold star on is forehead!
ditto +5

Alien127
Report Comment 8:39am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - Why do the issue permits so that a person can get stuck in the 'birth canal'. Just so that they can spend all the accumulated permit money and more on rescues?
ditto +3

jman06
Report Comment 8:52am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Alien127 - because, caving/spelunking is a risk. Just like, Canyoneering which I do. Just as issusing you a license to drive, doesn't mean you are a safe driver. And we all know how Utah drivers are, especially PROVO drivers. hehe

Just in case you don't know, they are horrible. Even worst the Rigby Idaho drivers.
funny +1

PKRJP
Report Comment 9:48am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@jman06 - "Even worst the Rigby Idaho drivers".

Ironic how you make fun of people who you stereotype as bad drivers, yet you can't even make a coherent sentence.

i_hate_spam
Report Comment 10:04am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@PKRJP - Not worse than Ogden or Layton drivers, though.
insightful +2

Outspoken
Report Comment 9:24am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - It's kind of like "The Crack" in St. George. I got stuck in there for a minute or two. I'll never do that again.

The opinions expressed in this comment are not necessarily those of KSL.... or are they?
disagree -8

WildHog
Report Comment 7:54am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I think they need to consider blocking these off. It is just a matter of time before someone dies there.
ditto +9

Vinney
Report Comment 7:56am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@WildHog - They more or less have done that - it used to be unresricted access, but now you have to get a permit.

60% of the time it works everytime
funny +8

Banzai
Report Comment 8:27am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Vinney - Maybe the permits lure idiots to go spelunking. Maybe they are not into spelunking as much as into getting a permit.
(actually I just wanted an excuse to use the word spelunking.)
huh? -2

LaBonitaGauchita
Report Comment 9:08am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Vinney - I'm really sad they took your comment off, thanks for making my morning, that was hilarious!

Annoy a Liberal: Work Hard & Be Happy
ditto +10

Bmg
Report Comment 8:06am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@WildHog - WildHog - Yeah, and let's consider getting rid of cars since it is just a matter of time before someone dies in an accident. This is the kind of small thinking that irritates the snot out of me. It's the same kind of thinking that use to bug me when I was in school when a student would do something bad and the teacher would punish the whole class by making them stay after and not go home. I bet you believe in madatory helmet laws too? No, what we need to do is let adults be adults and make their own decisions but have the have to pay for the consequences of their own actions. If you get stuck, then you pay the price of recovery when the crews have to get your butt out of the cave. The same with the hikers and climbers when they are deliberately doing stupid risky things. But why should I have it ruined for me just because an other got stuck?
ditto +3

DaddyStuart
Report Comment 8:42am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Bmg - @Bmg - I agree. They already had Nutty Putty gated and were allowing no one to go in, and were considering capping it because of people getting stuck. Luckily the Timpanogos Grotto made a cave management plan so it could be visited again. I hope this doesn't change things.

@WildHog - The management plan is set up to control who goes into the cave and make it a safe experience so it doesn't have to be blocked off. Normally, I'm not into regulations and permits, but if it keeps the cave open, I am fine with it. Better to regulate who goes in than to seal it off completely.
disagree -1

jman06
Report Comment 8:46am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Bmg - @BMG
"If you get stuck, then you pay the price of recovery when the crews have to get your butt out of the cave. The same with the hikers and climbers when they are deliberately doing stupid risky things. But why should I have it ruined for me just because an other got stuck?"

actually, you are wrong on the technicality of it. Sure, in theory it would be nice to have people pay for their consequences. But reality is, SAR (search and rescue) is all voluntary and the money they do receive is 15% (might have changed since last year I looked) of the funds received from hunting/fishing license tax. On contrary to your belief (and you should really do research before you arbitrarily post "facts", that the same for hikers and climbers is the same, it is not, its the same thing - SAR. Besides, if you were to do something stupid - which I'm sure you can admit, cause we all can, it's nice to have someone come to your aid, yes? So, having government help isn't all bad.

And your argument is interesting "let adults be adults". Although I agree with as a whole, you almost backtrack what you said later on. So my non-relevant point to this thread and question is when I'm at music venues, and signs clearly say "no smoking" but people sneak it and do mary-jane, even crack, who should pay for medicines to deal with my asthma to deal with the smoke? I've been told, that I certainly shouldn't go to these venues. Yes, but to their fallacy of argument, there is "no smoking" allowed in the first place - hence me thinking it's a safe smoke-free zone. So, I should make these guys pay then, yes?

Anyways, your straw-man argument of "getting rid of cars ...before someone dies in an accident" is not really persasive, although it is funny. Hence, that's why I believe that there are policys to protect the general whole (government help). Thus, "lets adults be adults" doesn't really work out that well, in your favor for an argument. just saying...
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WildHog
Report Comment 9:10am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Bmg - BMG, your argument is ridiculous. How about this: Since you seem to think there should be no restrictions on stupidity, how about we simply take away all stop lights. I am sure that will do away with small thinking. How about we take away those pesky safety levers on hand guns...I hate having to move them every time I shoot my .45. While we are at it, get rid of seatbelts. Adult are adults and should be able to choose, right? As long as you aren't the one cleaning up the visceral after a roll over.

I am not for stupid restrictions, never have been. The day a kid dies in that cave, you better hope to heII it is not your child. And by the way, I do not believe in helmet laws but I wear one because I am not stupid.

Vinney
Report Comment 10:07am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@WildHog - There are several models of handguns that don't have safetys, and you've failed to explain why it's the governments responsibility to make sure people don't get hurt.

You can't legislate and regulate tragedies and injuries out of existence, and trying only limits liberty.

It should go without saying, but from your "take away stop lights" coment, I feel I have to say it anyway: OBVIOUSLY I'm not talking about laws that prevent chaos and anarchy.

60% of the time it works everytime
ditto +3

Eichhoernchen
Report Comment 8:07am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@WildHog - We may as well illegalize driving. It is just a matter of time before someone dies doing that too. Caving is extremely enjoyable. Nutty Putty Cave is quite cool. I'm sad that it has been blocked as much as it has.
ditto +9

TripleTeazer
Report Comment 8:09am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@WildHog - It is not the governments job to save stupid people from themselves. Its just their job to get them out of the situation. I hope this clown gets a nice healthy bill in the mail.
funny +8

HairyToes
Report Comment 8:15am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - Maybe it should be the governments job to put all the stupid people in the Nutty Putty cave, then seal it up. But I think we need a much bigger cave!
funny +1

OldSasquatch
Report Comment 8:22am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@HairyToes - Is that cave big enough for 99.9% of the U.S. population?
funny +1

Chad Jones
Report Comment 8:59am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@OldSasquatch - Do you always talk to your own body parts, Sasquatch?
huh? -5

TripleTeazer
Report Comment 8:27am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@HairyToes - And they can start right there in happy valley!
split vote 0

Chad Jones
Report Comment 9:11am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - With all those "huh?" votes, it looks like people from Happy Valley are reading your post.
funny +18

Morallybankrupt
Report Comment 7:55am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Search & Rescue might have to let him go hungry for a few days until he loses some weight. . . like Winnie the Pooh had to do! Sorry about Thanksgiving this year Pal!
funny +8

OldSasquatch
Report Comment 8:01am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Morallybankrupt - Maybe some prunes to sustain him for a couple of days until his weight does start to drop?
funny +7

Ironmomo
Report Comment 8:08am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@OldSasquatch - stuck in the birth canal eh?.....hopefully they have an OBGYN on the rescue team....PUSH.....PUSH......PUSH.
ditto +4

Mr_neo
Report Comment 8:10am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@OldSasquatch - The downside to this approach is that the site will be a biohazard after a few days (what goes in must come out). Nasty.

“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” - George Bernard Shaw
ditto +10

left2right
Report Comment 7:59am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Don't drink beer, eat pizza, and insert your fat can in a place that is notoriously famous for being a major squeeze/danger.

Make sure to send him the bill for all this.
funny +7

c15
Report Comment 7:59am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I hope he is facing out and doesn't have gas
funny +7

Mr Flibble
Report Comment 8:06am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@c15 - If he's facing out and does have gas, then perhaps a couple dropped matches will be all he needs to be loosened.

Mr. Flibble is very cross.
ditto +4
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Morallybankrupt
Report Comment 8:10am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Mr Flibble - . . . blow him out of there, like a potato in a potato gun!
ditto +6

Bear Rug
Report Comment 8:13am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Mr Flibble - Ka-BOOM!!! Frrrrt!

Have a 'Hog Day!
ditto +3
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Erin O.
Report Comment 8:04am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
They just need to decide they aren't going to rescue people anymore (except at great cost) and post a sign outside and inside the cave.

Now if someone gets stuck... or stuck long enough to die (can't imagine that happening at such a high-traffic cave), the grieving family members can't blame the gov, just the person performing the cave stunts.
huh? -4

c15
Report Comment 8:26am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Erin O. - they already have decided. They have already posted their decision.
where you have you been? head stuck in the sand, er cave?
split vote 0

jman06
Report Comment 9:01am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Erin O. - @Erin O, although your second paragraph is sound in logic, the 1st falls through the cracks.

So tell me, as a hypothetical situation, you were stuck on a hill, climbing Mount-Olympus in SLC. Streneous 5+ hour hike. If you were to get lost, somehow, wouldn't you like to be saved? Or would you, according to your 1st paragraph logic, NOT rescue you and/or if we decide to rescue you, you will owe us $1000s of dollars?

The guy in me, believes that the mother in you (Erin is a girl's name these days, right?) would hope they would rescue you, and you wouldn't think twice about rescuing your child, now would you?

So why on earth, is this guy any different than you?

Pudgy
Report Comment 9:23am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@jman06 - The difference is we're on an anonymous internet comment board so it's easy to be completely heartless and cold. It's just words we type.

Or maybe Erin really would turn the other way if someone needed help. I hope not....

Makes me feel like shooting someone... with gumdrops.

jman06
Report Comment 9:39am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Pudgy - Its funny cause, as they say in a cliche way, its true.

I am willing to bet that 1/2 these people wouldn't have the balls to say 3/4 of their posts in real life. So what does that make us all - bigots and heartless at heart? I hope not either...
funny +6

Courtney J.
Report Comment 8:10am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
maybe he was trying to become born again..?

-Women seem wicked when you're unwanted-
huh? -4

UtahCelt
Report Comment 8:14am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Courtney J. - Streets are uneven when you're down...

나한테 키스하게. 나는 아일랜드인이십시오.
funny +1

mike_rom
Report Comment 8:30am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Courtney J. - So... how YOU doin? haha jk

I have been to Nutty Putty MANY times growing up... there are some WAY tight spots to where if you are fairly tall, weigh more than 200 pounds... YOUR STUCK!!
funny +5

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:33am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@mike_rom - I'm out.
74inches, 240 pounds, broad shoulders and tend to avoid looking like an idiot on the local media.
ditto +9

cougarblitz
Report Comment 8:12am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Can you say "Claustrophobic" if this poor guy wasn't before....he sure is now!
huh? -1

Melanie T.
Report Comment 8:15am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I was in there before, I am small (5'2") and I thought I would never get out because of the tight turn. There are other ways to get around this area, so there is no reason to shut it down, it is one of those things that you can try if you feel you can. Maybe they just need a Max size limit so that people who are too tall or too heavy won't get stuck.
ditto +1

Big Dog Mom
Report Comment 8:49am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Melanie T. - Melanie, as if people will care or listen when they read the posted sign. . .they must learn the hard way.
huh? -2

jman06
Report Comment 9:06am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Big Dog Mom - @Big Dog Mom, unfortunately, that's how our world works, usually. There are lots of signs, but no is really paying-attention.

Being off-topic here a slight, its like don't text and drive. We know its bad but LOTS of people do it, I use to till I ALMOST caused an accident, thankfully I didn't - but still very good lesson learned. I tell people that experience all the time, but they still text and drive. And for so strange reason, why do I see more women do it then men? I thought they were the "mothers" and would let no harm come to them our their children or other people's children. That seems ironic, don't ya think? just saying...
funny +1

Greencard
Report Comment 9:19am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Melanie T. - Yeah - like that's going to work! if people are stupid enough to go in there in the first place, they're not going to take any notice of signs saying they're too fat to go into the cave without getting stuck!!

To all overweight spelunkers out there - to quote the great Jeff Foxworthy - Here's Your Sign!!!

moablindsey
Report Comment 9:27am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Greencard - Um you mean Bill Engvall
ditto +6

Drummer
Report Comment 8:16am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Um, maybe it's just me, but why would you go to a place that people have gotten stuck before and risk it? I'm a risk taker and even I have my limits!

Thank You,
Tony
ditto +5

Tony d.
Report Comment 8:17am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
How many rescuers does it take to free a stuck man in a cave? 30?! What's up with that?

Tony D.

Pursue the truth no matter where it lies
funny +2

Morallybankrupt
Report Comment 8:29am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Tony d. - . . . maybe Search & Rescue is having to grease his hips!
huh? -1

TJones
Report Comment 8:31am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Tony d. - They're probably men.

jman06
Report Comment 9:35am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TJones - oh the bigotry continues...
funny +5

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:17am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
LoL
He has become a legend of epic proportions.

They should leave him there to think about what his next smart move will be.
funny +7

Loyal American
Report Comment 8:18am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I'm anxious to see the news footage of how they get the helicopter into the cave to rescue him.

Your ad here.
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(show comment)UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:31am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Loyal American - Are you serious?

They activate the Army National Guard to get this guy out.

It's probably a scam like the Balloon Boy of Colorado. He probably wasn't ever in the cave.
split vote 0

Brent S.
Report Comment 8:18am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I'll bet they blame this on Obama too!
funny +5

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:21am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Brent S. - That was uncalled for Brent S.
That cave was from the Bush admistration.
ditto +2

Florwood
Report Comment 8:34am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Brent S. - Actually, the first American president to be in office when Nutty Putty was a cave was George Washington. So yes, we can blame it on George!
funny +1

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:51am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Florwood - Isn't there an Armold Friberg painting of George Washington at Nutty Putty?
funny +3

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:20am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
KSL's next move

Are we to expect KSL to run a story on caving "experts" warning us about the dangers of caving?
Perhaps another story will be run on possible consideration for shutting the caves down thanks to this overweight human plug.
ditto +1

4-thought
Report Comment 8:20am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Thanks to all who care enough to rescue those in our midst who do dumb things and need saving. My thoughts and prayers go out to all involved - yes, even the poor guy who thought he could make it through the birth canal and failed.
huh? -2

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:22am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@4-thought - Thanks to your thoughts and prayers, this man was rescued. Nevermind the 30-plus people who actually got off the computer and went to help.
No, it was your thoughts and prayers that saved him.
We thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
Not the middle of our hearts, but the bottom of our hearts.
Thank you.
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TwothAmendment
Report Comment 8:34am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - "Nevermind the 30-plus people who actually got off the computer and went to help."

The man stuck in the cave is lucky that most of the armchair rescuers are at home at their computers.
huh? -3

4-thought
Report Comment 8:35am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - ad hominem attacks against me don't show anything but your lack of self-respect. I pity you. It did not escape my attention that you are also sitting at a computer rather than out there helping.

We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now. -- Martin Luther King Jr.
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UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:50am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@4-thought - Perhaps I am commenting from my Blackberry at the rescue site.
No worries, my thoughts and prayers never went towards this guy. My actions did.

bladegunner
Report Comment 9:44am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - Not following your logic, dude. Why is it only you are "perhaps commenting from [your] Blackberry at the rescue site," while all the rest of us are, according to you, necessarily sitting at our computers, doing nothing?

And, by the way, prayers definitely do help. I know this from personal experience.

jman06
Report Comment 9:52am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - Uh oh...another straw-man fallacy.

Although I some-what agree on you with thoughts & prayers VS actions, we have to be realistic and not expect the entire world to come down crashing down on us and rescuing us.

The compassionate people who would like to help, but usually don't know how - usually end up with thoughts and prayers.

At least they are attempting.
funny +1

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:28am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
This man needs to be exploited.

Has this man had the appropriate medical coverage, he would of not been stuck in that cave. The cave is a direct result of the Climate Change that so deeply impacts everyone of us. As you can see, thrity-plus jobs were created and saved to rescue this man and many move will be saved feeding and providing the necessary medical attention this man so desperately needs.
It is imperative that we pull together and pass this healthcare bill now to ensue many more obese men in America do not fall victim to getting their fat butts stuck in caves.
Thank you.
funny +3


Morallybankrupt
Report Comment 8:33am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - . . .I'm sure this man will feel more than exploited when Search & Rescue presents him with a bill for services rendered.

He will most likely scream rape.
insightful +1


jman06
Report Comment 8:49am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Morallybankrupt - why do people ALWAYS assume SAR usually gives out tickets. I'm with Davis SAR for the past 2 years, and have yet to see a ticket-issued or "services rendered".

SAR IS VOLUNTEER! The FUNDS received to pay for the helicopter comes from hunting/fishing taxes.

People, please get your facts straight.
funny +2

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:55am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@jman06 - Without people like the human plug, S&R would have no purpose. This cave is pretty well-known in the area. Why didn't S&R have a contingency plan to get one person out instead of exhausting the resources of over thirty people?

jman06
Report Comment 9:20am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - because, that's what SAR does. DO you ALWAYS have a contigency plan for everything you do? No.

Yes, this cave is very well known. Have you ever done it and if so how many times, and if so, ever been through this "birth canal"? I have. 4x through this cave. And 3x through the birth canal. It's definitely taxing on your body.

yes it is unfortunate to be called from home, sometimes not being really useful at all, BUT THAT'S the MISSION OF SARs. Regardless of my feelings and emotions before I arrive at the scene, at the end I feel great knowing that I am able to at least be part of the solution in helping. What can you say to do your part, instead of instigating and pointing somewhat of a blame on SAR?

Morallybankrupt
Report Comment 9:20am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@jman06 - Salt Lake County Search & Rescue is partially subsidized by county property taxes and they are authorized to recoup costs if it is determined that the rescue was avoidable and was caused by some
idiot(s) who don't have the common sense that God gave to a carrot!

jman06
Report Comment 9:31am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Morallybankrupt - @Morallybankrupt

Actually yes, you are right about that. Yes it is true they can recover the costs (that's what I said way above about how they have the "power" to do so, usually, the humanity side of us, just let it go by.

The only SAR agency I heard of that doesn't "pardon" or "write-off" the services is usally Grand and Emery Counties. Very remote areas and they have said they consider it a "full-time job" and should get paid rather than volunteer for free.

As I work for Davis and not SLC, I didn't know about the subsidy on property taxes. Good to know.
funny +1

Uinta-hiker
Report Comment 8:33am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I guess it had to happen some time! Today's "jollier" youth with sedentary lifestyles and easy access to junk food, and that tiny little cave complex. I bet this poor fellow will develop claustrophobia after this ordeal.
huh? -1

Wd
Report Comment 8:36am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Again?

just some years ago, there was a rescue at that same place!
ditto +3

mike_rom
Report Comment 8:53am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Wd - This is why they shut it down to the general public a couple years ago and you now need a permit.
huh? -2

00HONDACR250
Report Comment 8:38am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Even ready about this made my claustrophobia act up! Poor guy

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ditto +1

Chad Jones
Report Comment 9:09am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@00HONDACR250 - Same here. And reading about the poor guy that was assumed to be in a coma but was paralyzed and alert for 23 years really creeped me out as well.
split vote 0

Silly MO's
Report Comment 8:38am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
This whole thing sounds pretty nutty to me!
funny +5

UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:45am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Suggestions for getting tubby out of the cave:

1)Lower a tv and make him watch the ShamWOW and SlapCHOP guy's commercials on a loop. "You're gonna love my nuts!!"
2)Give him the option that he has to read the nearly 3000 page healthcare bill before S&R digs him out or he can get out himself.
3)Tell him there is a little bit of MaryCalendar's pie left outside if he wants some, but he needs to hurry.
4)Let him know that they were going to fill the cave up with cement today and he better get out since they are on a tight work schedule.
5)Show him pictures of "The Thing that dwells in the cave and likes feet" see how fast he can get out.
6)Tell him that if he can hold tight (heh) for another hour, Super Dale will be visiting him.
7)Show him the S&B and see if he still wants their help.
8)Spiders
9)Make him watch all those episodes of those people sitting on a couch on KBYU.
10)Take a vote and see who wants to leave him there or dig him out.
ditto +2

TripleTeazer
Report Comment 8:54am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - You forget #11. Tell max he needs to get out because he has a big game against UTAH this saturday.
funny +1

Banzai
Report Comment 9:18am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - That would be incentive for max. If it were Wynn it would have the opposite affect... Wynn would be crying "really I'm trying to get out.. I have a big game." as he thanked god for his situation.
ditto +1

jman06
Report Comment 9:11am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - although I will admit that although some of these are funny...you are a bigoted man.
ditto +2

mountaindiver
Report Comment 9:26am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - spiders would get me to move!
troll -2

dawgdeelux
Report Comment 8:55am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Used to be, S&R was just glad to help, seems now they show up to expose the stupidity of the person in trouble which leads to the who pays and how much crap.

It's True, I saw it on TV.
ditto +2
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UnderJamz
Report Comment 8:56am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@dawgdeelux - What are over 30 people going to do to help one person who can't even fit in a cave?

mountaindiver
Report Comment 9:28am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - It is a way for them to go into the cave without the permit. It sounds planned. lets send a small group in with a permit, have one get stuck, then we get 30 more with the same permit. Sounds logical to me.
disagree -2

Big Dog Mom
Report Comment 8:56am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Perhaps they need signs at the mouth of the cave (like they do at the rides at Disneyland) stating a max girth, and weight etc. by which one can go through the birth canal. Never been there, don't know if they have signs.
split vote 0

Gaul Stone
Report Comment 8:57am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
A fat spelunker? Maybe they could just leave him there like when Winnie the Pooh got stuck in Rabbit's window because he got fat from eating too much honey. They can wait until he loses some weight so they can pull him out. I have kids...that's how I know that Pooh story! Really!
funny +1

UnderJamz
Report Comment 9:04am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Gaul Stone - I bet chubby boy could sue the state for allowing the cave to be there with limited access.
funny +2

jman06
Report Comment 9:10am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@UnderJamz - Technicality here, he can't. He read and signed the waiver when he entered the cave.

BUT he COULD sue both of you (Gaul Stone, and UnderJamz) for calling him fat and chubby boy, because it's discrimination, even IF its true. just saying...
insightful +1

bladegunner
Report Comment 9:04am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I feel sorry for him. I went into Nutty-Putty once, and it was not a good experience. I didn't get physically stuck, but I did get lost, plus my flashlight went out. Not many things in this world scare me, but that did. Very much so. I'll never do that again.
funny +8

notamor
Report Comment 9:15am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
i got stuck at my mother-in-laws house once for twelve hours!. no search and rescue, no ksl news crew! whats up with this guy getting all this attention?
ditto +2

Mrs G
Report Comment 9:16am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I'd like to give this poor guy the benefit of the doubt. Its not like he looked at the birth canal and thought "Gee, I feel like getting stuck today" and helped himself. And I'm sure right now as he's been stuck for hours and probably will have nightmares from this experience I don't think it would hurt to have a little more sympathy for him instead of point and laugh and be glad its not us. Honestly, who hasn't taken a risk every now and then and have it fail?
ditto +1

bladegunner
Report Comment 9:22am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Mrs G - Absolutely. I guarantee you he didn't do this for attention. No way did he think this might happen, or he never would have done it. He is going through horrors right now that most of us here cannot imagine.

jman06
Report Comment 9:22am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@Mrs G - Your a compassionate person, Mrs. G. If only UnderJamz would feel the same way. But people like him seem to point the finger more often then help...
split vote 0

TripleTeazer
Report Comment 9:33am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@jman06 - Are you out heping jman? No you are on your computer too. Dont just talk, go help!
ditto +2
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zammsmom2
Report Comment 9:34am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - Call me crazy, but uh... how exactly could any of us help him? It isn't like he's lost!

jman06
Report Comment 9:44am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@TripleTeazer - @TripleTeazer, I know UnderJamz is your BFF on KSL but you dont need to defend him.

But yes, I am helping. I am with Davis SAR. Are you? Are you part of any organization to help people? Or do you, like him, instigate things? If I was part of the SLC SAR, then I would probably be out there right now, helping and not here typing.

So what's your point again?

BTW, have you ever been spelunking before? just curious...
funny +1

notamor
Report Comment 9:25am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
i say grease m up and show m a picture of my mother-in-law. he'll move!

zammsmom2
Report Comment 9:29am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Gag, I can hardly write much less think! Even seeing the heading of this article made me start feeling claustrophobic.

What if they really can't get him out? EEEEEK!

bladegunner
Report Comment 9:37am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@zammsmom2 - Man, if you're thinking that way and you're up here, I'd really hate to think what would happen if you ever wound up in his predicament!

zammsmom2
Report Comment 10:04am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@bladegunner - Blade... that's why I'm NOT up there. If I wound up in that predicament - well, can't even go there in my mind - but... I'd probably chew off my legs or something. (think mouse in a mouse trap)

TripleTeazer
Report Comment 9:38am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
@zammsmom2 - Dynamite will work if all else fails. Have no fear!
funny +2

kb83
Report Comment 9:34am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I wonder if he's feeling a little like Winnie the Pooh about now? I hope he's okay.

mtntop
Report Comment 9:37am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Time to demand insurance when they pull permits. Then the rescue will be paid, and county monies can be used to support the "programs" we all pay enormous taxes for. I like being rescued when there is need: I was life-flighted off a mountain once, after a rock rolled onto my leg. The $5,000 ten minute helicopter ride was partially paid by insurance, and it was well worth it. When I rent Snowmobiles, I pay for the insurance. Why should we not have insurance payments due at the time a permit is pulled to go caving, or to climb the Grand Teton, or to go Canyoneering in Zions?
ditto +1

mike_rom
Report Comment 9:38am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
If he isn't claustrophobic.... HE WILL BE NOW!!

Hope they get him out ok.
insightful +2

nlfontime
Report Comment 9:39am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Everybody who thinks this funny needs to get a life. I know the guy up there and he is really fit and active. He just got twisted enough that it happened. Maybe you should get off your fat butts and go try something new instead of sitting in your house writing messages that are inappropriate!!!!!

notamor
Report Comment 9:39am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
just having a little fun. really though, i feel for this guy and im sure they will get him out safely. didn't intend to offend anyone.
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biteme2
Report Comment 10:02am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Reminds me of the Winnie the Pooh story where he gets stuck in Rabbit's hole. Maybe Gopher will come by and offer his services. LOL

Vegetarians are a great source of fiber!

Peter The Great
Report Comment 10:02am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
To get stuck in the Nutty Puddy Cave you must be a little "Nutty" and he wishes he was made of puddy!

CMM
Report Comment 10:14am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
ah, the memories of making out with girls at these caves!
insightful +1

DahktaD
Report Comment 10:18am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Wouldn't it suck if Birth Canal was the only passage and this guy was the last one in line to go through in the group...sorta like a cork in a bottle, they would all be screwed...don't believe there is cell phone service in there either.
persuasive +1

SoonerL8tr
Report Comment 10:22am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
They will close this cave just like they did when the person drowned in the water cave a few years back.
We ALL have one thing in common: Choice
persuasive +1

tuxedozax
Report Comment 10:24am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
What a freaking motard! I've been to that cave for years, I've taken dates and everyone through the cave. Now there's all this gates and permit garbage because of stupid people like him that don't know how fat they are! Its because of him that the rest of us cavers suffer because they think that they should shut down the cave because its dangerous! BS! If danger were a factor they should shut down deer creek reservoir or lake Powell. Do you know how many dead bodies they pull out of there? way more people get hurt or killed there then in nutty putty cave. They should fine the guy for getting stuck! for just being an idiot.
funny +1

Rob B.
Report Comment 10:24am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
Break out the Crisco!

Aaron G.
Report Comment 10:31am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
This guy must have been pretty big. I went one time and a guy that was pushin 250lbs got through it. It was tight, but if your that big, dont try to squeeze yourself into tiny spaces!
funny +1

LetTheMilesGoBy
Report Comment 10:35am - Wed Nov 25th, 2009
I've been there. It's lame. It's not a cave. Its a crack in the ground. Yeeeeeeeeeah lets go wiggle around in between a bunch of rocks. Seriously stupid. Nutty Putty has a nice ring to it and sounds like a "super duper silly crazy time" on a disneyland ride....but really it's stupid. I couldn't believe we drove clear out there for that. They should change the name to Lame Crack so people stop going there.


 
 
 
 
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